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--- thoughts:society:incels [2021/09/26 19:59] – [Ethical Sexual Capitalism] Owen Mellema
+++ thoughts:society:incels [2021/09/28 20:55] (current) – [Minimization] Owen Mellema
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-Let us, therefore, lay out the dual of the two economic theories. First, Ethical Sexual Capitalism. In this system, the most important virtue is that people are free to make their own decisions about who they enter into relationships with, and the nature of those relationships. This is the system that exists now.
+Let us, therefore, lay out the dual of the two economic theories. First, Sexual Capitalism. In this system, the most important virtue is that people are free to make their own decisions about who they enter into relationships with, and the nature of those relationships. This is the system that exists now.
-Naturally, the competing theory is Ethical Sexual Communism. In this system, a "fair" distribution is enforced. That is, everyone is guaranteed a relationship, although it may not be with who you want. The "sexual bourgeoise" will be forced by some third party to surrender to the "sexual proletariat".
+Naturally, the competing theory is Sexual Communism. In this system, a "fair" distribution is enforced. That is, everyone is guaranteed a relationship, although it may not be with who you want. The "sexual bourgeoise" will be forced by some third party to surrender to the "sexual proletariat".
 Let me very, very clear: **Obviously that is a fucking horrible idea**. It is so deeply immoral that it should cause instant revulsion in most. Despite this, the "incel culture", as I defined it above, sometimes finds this idea to be a good one. To them I ask: Is that a morally consistent position? That is, are you also an economic communist? Are //you// using your body and possessions to benefit the less fortunate? Of course you aren't, at least, not in any meaningful way. You are not a communist, you are a looter - you're only in it to benefit yourself, not out of genuine ethical consideration.
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 Of course it's worse to be poor than to be an incel. The consequences of being an incel are psychological, while the consequences of being poor are both psychological and physical. The point that I'm trying to make is that they both fall into the same general category, and to be morally consistent requires thinking about incels as you would the poor.
+===== Minimization =====
+There is this modern idea that if something is pretty good, but has a tradeoff, that means it isn't good. That is, modern people aren't willing to accept mostly good, we expect things to be perfect or we label them bad. In general, it's good that we think this way, as it encourages innovation. At the same time, nothing is ever without consequences.
+Sexual Capitalism is a good idea, but incels prove it is flawed. If we are unable to accept anything less than perfection in our ideas, we have two options: Abandon the idea in search of a perfect one (and there aren't any), or minimize the problem, so as to continue living as if it were perfect.
+One minimization technique is to assert that incels themselves are to blame. One might call this the "Bootstraps" approach. Like poverty, this may be true in some circumstances, but not in all circumstances. For example, some incels are overweight, and this can certainly be fixed with dieting and exercise. By wearing more fashionable clothes, getting a haircut, etc one might improve their chances.
+However, there are things that can't be changed. It doesn't matter how much you work out or how muscular you are, if you were 5'0" before, you'll be 5'0" after. Same goes for ugly faces. Also, some people are nuerodivergent, which causes them trouble. Autistic people, for instance, have a lot of trouble interacting with others. Some people have social anxiety, which means that, despite possibly being a very good person, they would struggle with the initial stages of flirting.
+When this fails, the next strategy is dehumanization. By mocking, trolling, or in general looking down upon a person, it's possible to subconsciously assign him the status of "less than human", and therefore reduce empathy for him.